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A. Kirsten. I have traced the company originated by Adolf Kirsten from
1895 (shown by Griffin of that date) through Lloyds to at least 1980 and
up until the mid 1970s they are also shown as Hamburg-London Linie A. Kirsten
& Co., A. Kirsten & Co. and Rhein-See- Schiffahrtges.
A. Kirsten & Co. As far as I can make out they all used the same
livery and the vessel names all ended in "a".
Neale Rosanoski, 3 Jan 2003
A. Kirsten, Hamburg - the flagchart of the Amsterdam harbour
has the same flag for the "Amsterdam-Hamburg Linie", guess it's
the same company
Jarig Bakker, 3 Jul 2004
This newspaper?
clipping (source, date, and author "Dr.Ko." unknown - obviously part
of a series) offers additional information: In Sept.1854 the sons of shipbroker
H.F. Kirsten flew a pennant with five red and four white stripes on their
yacht during a regatta. It is assumed these stripes referred to the Hamburg
colours.
In 1867, A. Kirsten adopted this pennant for his shipping company.
Sailors gave it various nicknames, referring to striped bacon or the bathing
costumes of the day.
Jan Mertens, 24 Sep 2010
image by Eugene Ipavec, 24 Aug 2008
Apparently Adolf Kirsten with Talbot-Booth stating that they were steamship
owners from 1867 and they were still listed in Lloyds in 1980 before disappearing
from the scene. Sources seem split as to whether the flag was a triangular
rectangle or a proper pennant with the German sources plumping for the
former. They also appear to have operated as the Hamburg-London Linie,
formed 1928, with a different version of a similarly striped rectangular
flag . After WW2 the latter seems to have become Hamburg-London Linie
A. Kirsten A Co. but indications are that only the pennant version
was then used, likewise for Rhein-See Schiffartsgesellshaft A. Kirsten
& Co. K.G.
Neale Rosanoski, 13 Oct 2004
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